Here is my last IJA type 95 copper handle nco sword the I own. WW II 20062021 Nihonto Message Board I'm not going to go into details. The Phillips screw was only patented in 1932, and hadn't caught on in most of the world by WWII. June 23, 2016. like many dealers, there main concern is profit, regardless of the piece being a reproduction. I completely agree with Bill here. Please see our. Contact one of them for assistance. at the best online prices at eBay! The Type 95 NCO sword is similar in appearance to officers Type 94 and Type 98 Shin-gunt military swords, but is made of lower quality materials, most notably its hilt, which is made from metal and the scabbard was similar to that of the Type 32 with a prominent drag. The position of the number on the blade, configured to be read with the cutting edge down, identifies the sword as having been produced by the Tokyo Arsenal (The only other source for the Type 95 sword was the Nagoya arsenal, which impressed the number on the blade in such a way that it is read with the cutting edge facing up). Bruce has politely written exactly what my reply would have been. Also, they definitely like those brass tsukas, don't they! Identification All Images and Text Copyright 2003-2023 International Military Antiques Inc. All Rights Reserved. Obvious two issues are the scabbard pattern and additional screw. Yes, those are strangely too perfect and not a recognized font. The Kokura Arsenal did not produce any Type 95 Shin Gunto but over-saw the production of these swords so its identification stamp is often found on Type 95 swords. I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. Is there visible grain (hada) in the steel of the blade? I have been asked this many times at shows, from dealers and buyers. Well am hoping mine is genuine - also just realised I should've actually started my own thread - apologies, Great lets see what you got, in your own post lol. Even non-mechanical artsy-fartsy stuff. National Guard Marksmanship Training Center. Your previous content has been restored. Steves last post real or copy? Unfortunately have to agree with Brian, as prices move upwards, the copies will inevitably get better. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords and scabbards were frequently . no interest to Japanese sword collectors. Cheers to Dan for bringing it to my attention. Something went wrong. There are numerous The overall length is approximately 38 inches in the scabbard. tourist momentos that are commonly thought to be some special type of Japanese sword. How the sword is mounted has nothing to do with its age or authenticity. Save japanese type 95 sword to get e-mail alerts and updates on your eBay Feed. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. Serial number 116501 with matching saya. 100 % newly made. I probably say this way too much BUT to flog a dead horse, the NCOs have a ton of small variations between subcontractors and between batches themselves, so just something to keep in mind. Based on my research the sword meets all the criteria of an authentic WWII Shin-Gunto Type 95 with one exception which is confusing me. I'm not an expert on Japanese swords, so I'll be glad with the maximum information on this Type 95. Further Authorized for production in 1935, the Type 95, commonly referred to as the NCO sword was all-machine made unlike the more expensive and higher-quality Officers sword. system works well. WW II era swords have been put into shirasaya or Mission Ready, Qualified & Competent, On Time Execution! antique blades were left unsigned or have had their signatures (mei) lost over time. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. There are two NCO late stage on Ebay now. Used. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. The blade is quite bright and, while there are some scratches and spots, there are no cracks, chips, or rust. The machine-made blade is 26 inches long. remounted in samurai type mounts by collectors. in the hilt. All Rights Reserved. This prevents the sword from falling when the soldier is running. It is Type 95 with an aluminum tsuka. I avoided buying into German WW2 helmets because of the fakes out there and now I've entered into another minefield. The serial number looks very short by the size of the painted over area - maybe too short. Shamsy The fuller on a real T95 goes almost to the habaki (collar), the brass part around the blade just above the tsuba/guard. The original thread is gone and buried somewhere and this, Saw these photos of a fake Type 95. There are genuine collectors throughout China too. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. blade - most likely a WW II NCO sword. Examine the hamon with a magnifying glass. or old wood sticks. Gun magazine laws, concealed weapons laws, laws governing new made display guns, airsoft guns, blank fire guns, and other items vary greatly by nation, state and locality. Also, the tang on this is full length, with two holes. For definitions of terms, check the visual glossary page. Some older (Shinshinto) Matching serial numbers 31123. Today I checked, just in case the sword was pulled from sale, and lo and behold there is a 'rare copper handle' now listed, clearly of the same manufacturer. All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. China has a rising group of wealthy individuals who are buying up cars, gold, realeatate, antiques and art at an alarming rate. This being despite the machine made blade an cast aluminum hilt. Japanese swords will have a visible grain in the steel of the blade. This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. By law, Japanese citizens were forbidden to own swords. can be. Short fuller. But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. Amounts shown in italicized text are for items listed in currency other than U.S. dollars and are approximate conversions to U.S. dollars based upon Bloomberg's conversion rates. NEVER CLEAN THE TANG OF A JAPANESE SWORD OR TAMPER WITH IT IN ANY WAY!!! You may severely injure yourself and/or damage the sword. Around $1.000. An excellent example of a World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword that was obviously carried in the field of combat operations. Murasame Katana L6 Steel Hand Forged Steel. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Japanese Arisaka Type 99 Last Ditch Complete Bolt With Matching Serial Numbers at the best online prices at eBay! A lot of people buy it and some weeks later you can buy it as a original NCO Sword.. antique or of recent vintage. The copper ferrule has three stamps . Most sword canes were produced in the late 19th Century - early 20th Century. The scabbard exhibits about 70% of its original olive brown. This example has a matching serial number 55250 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. By the way, the MILLIONS of copy ROLEXS have not slowed the demand for the real thing, or stopped prices rising. It is terrible. Because it's really quite a nice repro, thought I'd better share it here as for reference. Everything to know Japanese 95 nco swordPlease visit our Ebay store and subscribe to our channel https://www.ebay.com/str/thediamondmonkey42You will find in . Sometimes they get irate. Man just crazy all the fakes and how great this sight is about telling how to spot them .many thanks for posting to help us out. Traditionally this function is assigned to the Habaki (blade collar). Sword canes (Shikomi-zue) mostly have very low grade blades. It comes with the original bag it came home from the war in. painted wood figures. You cannot re-wrap the hilt with the silk cord that was removed. Buy It Now. Hi all,while I'm sure our members know how to pick a fake NCO, I wanted to share these.http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=277http://mountcastlesantiques.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=18&products_id=276&zenid=qot0424cgushvekob07rapkkq2The really disappointing part is that I informed the site owner about the first sword and provided a comprehensive list of indicators the sword is not genuine. on a single criteria. It's a huge tell tale. All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. Posted October 27, 2017 I am extremely thankful for the help/knowledge shared in this forum. Here is a decent fake Stu W. posted over on WAF. The saya These items are of I admit that I've had to look at it a couple of times. WAY too big, wrong place and the square imprint around it. You can't sell weapons on ebay.de it is forbidden and ebay close your account. swords may likewise not be sharpened down to the habaki; however, most WW II swords were not. Carlos,I remember your sword ( if it's the same one you first put on the site ) and it's 100%If you look at the sword by Shamsy in post no9 look at the seppa and how poorly it fits and how new it looks ! Always check. I searched into the rest of the Japanese items on the site. The NMB says so!" The blade must be examined in its entirety and not judged solely An etched temper line will be seen as a smooth cloud lacking any internal features. Does the blade show a true temper line (hamon)? The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off No habaki. When ANY doubt exists as to the authenticity or I have been searching for years for a good reproduction of a Japanese Shin-gunto NCO sword. The aluminium hilt / tsuka has good amounts of its By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. NCO copper tsuka (handle) that is actually painted on top of the handle, I have not seen that before. The end of WWII marked the beginning of the sword ownership ban in Japan. I can't get over the prices on these nowadays.. crazy, https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-WWII-Japanese-NCO-OFFICERS-SWORD-WITH-MATCHING-NUMBERS/253234351978?hash=item3af5f18f6a:g:wxsAAOSwAHtZ94Dm. I do not think they will be able to make a perfect fake as there are too many small details right down to the materials used. the tsuka casting made me look 3 times, but just look at the stamps on the nakago, Ok, a little later I will add a photo of the unpainted serial numbers. Your link has been automatically embedded. By law, Japanese citizens were forbidden to own swords. This example has a matching serial number 93225 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. Benefits CHARITY. I forgot to point out that inside the scabbard there are wooden inserts. It sounds to me like he was indeed a 3rd party procuring items. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for WW2 Type 30 Arisaka Japanese Bayonet Scabbard Straight Quillon Imperial Army No. I'm not trying to be rude, but we don't know you and your authenticity in your posted reasons to be here. This was a tough one! good condition, a few small patina streaks, nothing much, and firm Guaranteed authentic: A WW2 Type 95 Japanese army He didn't hide anything said he was sending them back to ChinaAt the end of the show he had bags fullhe looked like ' Buckin Bronco ' carrying them away ! . For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. I really would have liked better pictures of the fuchi in light and the serial numbers, but I am very confident this is a well made reproduction. The scabbards and hilts are usually designed to resemble bamboo lonely panet. / full sized images available upon request. This would fool most entry level guys. Then the horror is the "Ko" stamp! in WW II military mounts. This scabbard also has an original leather field cover, which has discolored and shrunk over time. Military Japanese 95 Type Army Sword Samurai Katana Brass Handle ~Serial Number. Referencing Carlo's post from last year, I also used to collect some German (for MANY years) and was quite confident in my ability to spot fakes, but I admit the quality is now off the charts (especially helmets) and it forced me totally out of that hobby. Your email address will not be published. I agree and have never been able to put it into words like you just did. is signed, that it must be hand made. Some of these bone swords will have very low grade metal mountings, commonly with the Tokugawa mon incised into or embossed on the mountings. The serial number on the throat of the scabbard, 65830 matches that of the blade. Seppa intergrated in the fuchi is a no go here. the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords Serial range could be wrong as well but, I cant see them. WWII Japanese Army Type 95 Tokyo Arsenal NCO Shin-Gunto Sword $ 895.00 A World War II Type 95 Japanese Army NCO sword on which the sword blade and scabbard both have matching serial numbers. The first question to be answered - is it a real sword or a modern replica or an There is no historical documentation that ninja used swords which were of a special design or differed from those used by other Japanese of the period. They are getting better with the Kokura cannonballs, but this one - the lines are to thin, the balls too big. Do not undertake to dis-assemble a sword unless you know what you are There are strategies in place with most countries Customs and Border protection to seize and destroy fake watches, handbags, CD's DVD's etc, but swords are not even on the RADAR. You cannot paste images directly. Could someone simply call the most obvious differences from the original? After that I heard nothing. There are over 8 obvious indications the sword is a repro dressed as a fake. I din't know why the NCO swords are asked so strong. If you cannot see this grain or do not know what to look for, assume it is carved bone, not ivory. The metal of the scabbard has the patina of old iron. The overall swords are getting better. Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. None of the replicas have this feature. 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As above100% fakejust look at the fit on the saya throatBut yes they are getting betterBought a sword at a recent big militaria fair,actually two swordsleft them with the sellers instead of carrying them around when I came to pick them up was approached by a very polite Chinese fella who offered to buy them at a premium off meHe didn't hide anything said he was sending them back to ChinaAt the end of the show he had bags fullhe looked like ' Buckin Bronco ' carrying them away ! The seppa is a clear fake, and like everyone else said, the bo-hi starts too far down the blade and the tip is round (like a Nagoya). What a bunch of junk. The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. And with the wrong type stamps. There are old sword blades which have no visible grain (muji hada); however, the presence of grain does When in doubt, check the blade with a magnet. Otherwise that is dangerously good to newcomers or unwary collectors looking for that ebay goldmine. Pasted as rich text. Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. Given the large jump in value that NCO swords have experienced in the last few years and given how relatively easy it is to copy something that is cast and milled without a lot of hand work involved, I think it is only a matter of time, and not much time at that, before the fakes are indistinguishable from the real thing. Blade length approximately 27 1/2 inches . Usually the copies are considerably lower, making it very obvious. View cart for details. One thing I also saw while researching is the nightmare of the number of fakes out there. Eligible for all payments - Visa, Mastercard, Discover, AMEX, Paypal, Amazon & Sezzle. All the best. If the swords are getting this good I think that's not a good idea. once told the facts they simply. View cart for details. IMA works diligently to be aware of these ever changing laws and obeys them accordingly. a good first indicator. to another sword / scabbard. Can anyone tell me more about the sword than a cursory googling has resulted? well it would have fooled me, how about you other gunto guys? This example has a matching serial number 55250 on both the blade and the throat of the scabbard. Blade is 26.5 inches long, with an overall length of 36.5 inches. Blade is 26.25 inches long, with an overall length of 36.25 inches. You cannot paste images directly. This sword I shared with Steve (this thread) is a very good knowledge test - the goofy belt hanger (Bruce references) made me discount the sword immediately, but on closer look (my opinion) the stamps are a bit better than the other, cheaper fakes out there on the market. Wayne i would have called bad on it, think F&G early book had balls that big, remember two diff stacked ball stamp, or not, memory, lol, i jest. (hamon). People can scoff at paranoia as much as you like but the simple fact is they are getting better, whether through study of originals or reading well intentioned post. The serial #'s are the best place to focus IMHO. IMA works diligently to be aware of these ever changing laws and obeys them accordingly. The best place to look is at the serial Numbers. An elite marksman. Most swords do not . Consult someone who is trained in tsuka-maki if you need to have a handle re-built. I do share Greys sentiment though. It's 40 inches overall, with a 33.5" blade, and weighs roughly two to two and a half pounds, or 101cm with an 85cm blade, and about a kilo for all you metric enthusiasts. Etchings. Also many Chinese military swords are confused with Japanese swords. the rayskin (same') are prayer papers to protect the soldier in battle. No habaki. Sometimes they just forget this part. The position of the number on the blade, configured to be read with the cutting edge down, identifies the sword as having been produced by the Tokyo Arsenal (The only other source for the Type 95 sword was the Nagoya arsenal, which impressed the number on the blade in such a. As I said in the other NCO topic. 4x 3 Inch Rubber Casters Heavy Duty Safety Brake Wheels For Wire Shelving Rack, Lenovo IdeaPad 3 14" FHD Laptop Intel Core i7-1165G7 8GB RAM 512GB SSD, Chrome Mirror Vinyl Film Wrap Sticker Decal Stretchable Reflective Super Gloss, DEWALT DCCS620B 20V MAX Cordless Li-Ion 12 in. The hilt is complete with a functional metal locking spring tab that secures the blade to the scabbard. This page was last updated: 04-Mar 05:55. Truly disappointing. 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There is a suspicion that this is a fake. Clear editor. signed or not has little to do with determining if it is handmade or the age of the blade. Your previous content has been restored. But machine made swords like this one do not have the accuracy of manufacturing that enable the Habaki to perform such a function. This sword is actually pictured on page 191 of Dawson . The process of tsuka-maki (handle wrapping) is quite complicated. The brown paint on the hilt has mostly worn away, as it did not really stick well to the aluminum. Carved bone and carved ivory sword mountings almost always have untempered, soft steel blades. Newer swords will have a grey, metallic tang perhaps with a little red rust. the mounts can be interesting with hidden, spring loaded, pop out guards. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. By placing an order, the buyer represents that he/she is in compliance with the law and will utilize the items in a lawful manner. October 27, 2017 in Military Swords of Japan. They don't need to read the NMB daily to see if there are any tips. In Germany you got now only fake Gunto. This is a very scarce and important very early production Japanese Army Type 95 NCO Sword. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Complete with metal locking spring tab that secures the blade to the scabbard. is just ridiculous.They HAVE genuine ones to copy. Could this thread please get a Fake tag? The hilt paint is only about 30%, but still shows much of the yellow accent paint. A real hamon For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. On newer swords the file marks on the tang will be sharp and crisp. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. Sword steel of the army standard , Blade length: 83.6, Curvature: 1.35, machine made, tempering in oils, with a fuller and no Hamon, Overall length: 100.2, Made in the Tky Artillery Arsenal Type 32 Gunt is a government supply noncommissioned officer sword enacted in 1889 (August 23, Meiji 32). The sword sheathes and draws very well, and the "Ninja swords" are a Hollywood fiction. I have been asked this many times at shows, from dealers and buyers. . This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. In my earlier years, I would have rattled off a long list of the things I see wrong, where the veterans would remain silent. late, now sold). Look at the bohi at the kissaki and the arsenal marks are terrible! This is due to the method Neil. Most WW II era blades are not sharpened all the down to the habaki (collar). It is said that during battle soldiers would not use the ring but rather would stick the sword through the belt the same way as the Samurai in ancient times. The Americans destroyed a large number of swords by dumping them into the ocean or by melting them. This fine example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana with aluminum handle construction and machine made blade. I am not sure why the serial numbers are covered? If the blade is aluminum, the sword is not Display as a link instead, In Germany the only plattform for weapons is egun. A real one would also be fine, but is too expensive for me. Authorized for production in 1935, the Type 95, commonly referred to as the NCO sword was all-machine made unlike the more expensive and higher-quality Officer's sword. This looks good from a distance, but up close the details reveal the fake. collectors often have a higher knowledge base then dealers, and a higher respect for items and there history. Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. iaito (iai practice sword)? There are some very knowledgeable and experienced folk here and you can trust their deduction. Machine made blade is good condition. Most swords do not have matching numbers because somewhere along the life of the sword the scabbard was changed. Typical WWII Imperial Japanese Army style fittings, with a single suspension ring from the scabbard, known as the "New Military Sword" (shin guntou) style. I agree. The scabbard is painted the correct green color, and the spacing from the top to the hanging ring is the correct 3 inches. The great majority of these swords are made of carved bone, not ivory. 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